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Poster: jerkwaterdan Date: Jan 1, 2008 12:41am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Jerry ('Legion of Mary') ..perfect for friends of Darkness...

It certainly would have made for some great(er) versions of It's All Over Now Baby Blue" wouldn't it? Can you imagine Dylan and the Dead 1966 doing Ballad Of A Thin Man or Desolation Row or It's Allright Ma ( I'm Only Bleeding) and the like?

Heres a great 1966 It's All Over Now Baby Blue:
I just love that swirling organ riff by Pigpen!

http://www.archive.org/details/gd66-09-16.sbd.vernon.9127.sbeok.shnf

This post was modified by jerkwaterdan on 2008-01-01 08:39:15

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Poster: Earl B. Powell Date: Jan 1, 2008 6:16am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Jerry ('Legion of Mary') ..perfect for friends of Darkness...

It's notable that Garcia and Dylan had a huge mutual admiration for each other, but didn't get together in the early years. There were several musical connections they shared in the seventies, most notably David Bromberg who played on Dylan's "New Morning" in 1970 and Buddy Cage who played on "Blood on the Tracks" in '75. There was also the "Festival Express" tour with "The Band" in 1970.

My feeling is that Dylan had a (justified) reputation for being musically difficult and demanding that kept many at arms length. Dylan also seemed to travel in different circles, and surely more of an East-Coaster than a California Kid. Not to mention Dylan's penchant for being overly unpredictable (and sometimes just plain awful) when playing live.

I think the real shame of it is that the Dylan & The Dead Tour did as much to harm both parties as it did to cement any long lasting collaborative effort. Garcia and Dylan both appearing a little long in the tooth, the band just not tight and 90% of the performances were of throw away quality.

...If I had the chance to re-write history, it would have been Dylan and JGB together. Kind of like a Booker T & the MG's thing. (with Jerry playing the part of a hefty Steve Cropper.)

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Poster: He Live's Date: Jan 1, 2008 1:35pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Jerry ('Legion of Mary') ..perfect for friends of Darkness...

"long in the tooth" that kinda sums it up.... and then to JWATER's comment: yeah, it WOULD have been something to hear an earlier incarnation.... but not at the expense of THE BAND YEARS. Dylan found the perfect "back up" band with robbie robertson, rick danko and the rest -- what a perfect combination.

but maybe a few years later, like 1970, when the dead started doing the college gigs, and got away from being a psychedelic San Francisco band and into the roots music....

[...]not so long in the tooth, 6/4/70, Baby Blue


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Poster: ducats Date: Jan 1, 2008 6:23am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Jerry ('Legion of Mary') ..perfect for friends of Darkness...

I don't know if it would have worked - are u saying Dylan on organ or instead of Bobby or the 3 guitars?

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Poster: jerkwaterdan Date: Jan 1, 2008 11:38pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Jerry ('Legion of Mary') ..perfect for friends of Darkness...

No I'm only saying it would have been a very cool meeting of like-minded musical minds and cultural pioneers at an important time and place in history. The Grateful Dead did with music what Dylan did with language in many ways. They both used their respective talents as tools to raise consciousness and express things that are not understood in black and white terms. Ken Kesey when he gave his eulogy for Jerry Garcia said something to the effect that "we are not talking about a "gitar" player here. Jerry Garcia used to like to get inside you with his music and tinker with your wiring" Bob Dylan did the same with his words.I can listen to a song like Wicked Messenger or Baby Blue 10,000 times and it will tell me about 10.000 different stories, a different one each time I hear it. The same is true with Grateful Dead music. The long and the short of it is that it would have been an event for the ages had the two paths crossed at that particular moment in time instead of years later.